Consider switching to Nextcloud alpine images #31

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opened 2022-11-13 00:00:53 +00:00 by 3wordchant · 9 comments

3wordchant commented 2022-11-13 00:00:53 +00:00

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Quoth @javielico:

does it makes sense to use the alpine versions as well instead of the debian ones? Just purely due to the fact that they will use less resources.

& @decentral1se:

Some thoughts: that sounds like a nice idea. That might require some testing and changes in other files e.g. in the entrypoint or may have some unforseen consequences, so I would rather perhaps open up an issue to see if there is feedback on it. Several folks rely on the recipe as it is now. Opening up another PR with just those changes would be good too.

I'd be very interested in this, reducing image size and increasing performance is always nice!

Quoth @javielico: > does it makes sense to use the alpine versions as well instead of the debian ones? Just purely due to the fact that they will use less resources. & @decentral1se: > Some thoughts: that sounds like a nice idea. That might require some testing and changes in other files e.g. in the entrypoint or may have some unforseen consequences, so I would rather perhaps open up an issue to see if there is feedback on it. Several folks rely on the recipe as it is now. Opening up another PR with just those changes would be good too. I'd be very interested in this, reducing image size and increasing performance is always nice!

javielico commented 2022-11-13 00:57:51 +00:00

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I'd be happy to perform some tests next week to see whether by just switching the image it will work on a dev enviroment, not sure how you folks usually perform these kind of tests?

I'd be happy to perform some tests next week to see whether by just switching the image it will work on a dev enviroment, not sure how you folks usually perform these kind of tests?

3wordchant commented 2022-11-13 04:07:52 +00:00

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@javielico we have some continuous integration tests (they were broken for Nextcloud, I just fixed them 😳) which test basic deployment, but the coverage isn't amazing -- we don't do any system tests, just making sure the app comes up and passes its own healthcheck. So the real answer is "a bunch of manual clicking around" -- for Nextcloud, we'd probably want to test things like occ, Nextcloud client apps, and OIDC login. Let me know if you'd like to cowork or otherwise collab on it! Thanks again for your efforts 🙏

@javielico we have [some continuous integration tests](https://build.coopcloud.tech/coop-cloud/nextcloud) (they were broken for Nextcloud, I just fixed them 😳) which test basic deployment, but the coverage isn't amazing -- we don't do any system tests, just making sure the app comes up and passes its own healthcheck. So the real answer is "a bunch of manual clicking around" -- for Nextcloud, we'd probably want to test things like `occ`, Nextcloud client apps, and OIDC login. Let me know if you'd like to cowork or otherwise collab on it! Thanks again for your efforts 🙏

javielico commented 2022-11-13 16:25:09 +00:00

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Looks great, thank you for fixing the CI tests. I will test the new version with Alpine, occ and most popular client apps as well as the integration with OIDC. I'd love if we somehow we can collab or co-work on it, not sure how much time you folks have to dedicate to this per week so I don't want to distract you from something else, let me know what's the best way to move forward but also happy to crack on silently from my end until you've some time.

Looks great, thank you for fixing the CI tests. I will test the new version with Alpine, occ and most popular client apps as well as the integration with OIDC. I'd love if we somehow we can collab or co-work on it, not sure how much time you folks have to dedicate to this per week so I don't want to distract you from something else, let me know what's the best way to move forward but also happy to crack on silently from my end until you've some time.

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3wordchant commented 2022-11-13 17:53:32 +00:00

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@javielico I'll DM you on Matrix to try and finagle a link-up on this. Thanks for your thoughtfulness about time and priority; we haven't yet worked out exactly how much time we have to spend on recipe maintenance, but Nextcloud (and Keycloak, as per coop-cloud/keycloak#12 ) are definitely priorities given how many of them we're hosting.

@javielico I'll DM you on Matrix to try and finagle a link-up on this. Thanks for your thoughtfulness about time and priority; we haven't yet worked out exactly how much time we have to spend on recipe maintenance, but Nextcloud (and Keycloak, as per coop-cloud/keycloak#12 ) are definitely priorities given how many of them we're hosting.

javielico commented 2022-11-13 18:25:15 +00:00

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Sounds good @3wordchant, also, given that we're benefiting from this work, I'm happy to dedicate free time to recipes maintenance and help out that way.

Sounds good @3wordchant, also, given that we're benefiting from this work, I'm happy to dedicate free time to recipes maintenance and help out that way.

ineiti commented 2026-09-28 19:30:17 +00:00

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Is this still something we want to do, @javielico @3wordchant , or do we stay with fpm?

Is this still something we want to do, @javielico @3wordchant , or do we stay with `fpm`?

3wordchant commented 2026-10-12 07:42:43 +00:00

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No opinion from me @ineiti !

No opinion from me @ineiti !

moritz commented 2026-10-12 11:24:02 +00:00

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We should definitely stay with the -fpm images, but the question is if we move from the default debian image to alpine.
Alpine is a bit more lightweight, but I would say the extra effort is not worth it. We need to ensure that every abra.sh command the entrypoint scripts won't break. And the debian image is the officially supported one.
But if someone is motivated, I'm not against it.

We should definitely stay with the `-fpm` images, but the question is if we move from the default debian image to alpine. Alpine is a bit more lightweight, but I would say the extra effort is not worth it. We need to ensure that every abra.sh command the entrypoint scripts won't break. And the debian image is the officially supported one. But if someone is motivated, I'm not against it.

ineiti commented 2026-10-13 14:41:14 +00:00

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I was not aware that Debian is the official one. Then I propose we stay with the Debian one. Is it OK if we keep the issue open till end of October, and if nobody complains, we close it? They can always open another one. But I'm trying to get the number of open issues down a bit...

I was not aware that Debian is the official one. Then I propose we stay with the Debian one. Is it OK if we keep the issue open till end of October, and if nobody complains, we close it? They can always open another one. But I'm trying to get the number of open issues down a bit...

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