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# "This is foolishness, what about ...?"
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 - Kubernetes
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     - 👍 Helm charts are available for some key apps already
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     - 👎 too big -- requires 3rd party tools to run a single-node instance
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 - Bitnami stacks
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 - Cloudron
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     - 👍 Lovely web interface for app, domain & user management
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     - 👍 Bigger library of apps
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     - 👍 Built-in SSO using LDAP, which is compatible with more apps and often has a better user interface than OAuth
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     - 👍 Most apps are actively maintained by the Cloudron team
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     - 👎 Moving away from open source. Free version has a 1-app limit
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     - 👎 Based on Docker images, not stacks, so multi-process apps (e.g. parsoid for Mediawiki) are a non-starter
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     - 👎 Difficult to extend apps
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     - 👎 Only supported on Ubuntu
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     - 👎 Upstreams aren't involved
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 - Yunohost
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     - 👍 Lovely web interface for app, domain & user management
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     - 👍 Bigger library of apps
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     - 👍 Awesome backup / deploy / restore continuous integration testing
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     - 👍 Supports hosting apps in subdirectories as well as subdomains
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     - 👍 Doesn't require a public-facing IP
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     - 👎 Upstreams aren't involved
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     - 👎 Not idempotent: uninstalling apps leaves growing cruft
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 - Ansible
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     - 👍 Includes server creation and bootstrapping
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     - 👎 Upstreams aren't publishing Ansible roles
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     - 👎 Lots of manual work involved in things like app isolation, backups, updates
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 - `docker-compose`
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     - 👎 Manual work required for process monitoring 
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     - 👎 Secret storage not available yet
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     - 👎 [Not recommended](https://github.com/BretFisher/ama/issues/8)
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 - Manually installing apps
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     - 👍 Simple - just follow upstream instructions to install and update
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     - 👎 Loads of manual work required for app isolation and backups
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     - 👎 Array of sysadmin skills required to install apps
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     - 👎 Hard to share configs into the commons
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@ -31,5 +31,26 @@ CoCl is a **philosophy**.
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 - then you install an **app** like wordpress or nextcloud, which is made up of multiple **services**...
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 - .. and configure your app.
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## Technical description
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Software-wise, CoöpCloud is:
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 - [`coop-cloud`](https://git.autonomic.zone/coop-cloud/), a collection of Docker "swarm mode" configurations for popular web apps
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 - [`abra`](https://git.autonomic.zone/autonomic-cooperative/abra), a simple tool for Docker swarm management
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 - a recommended default set of stacks:
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    - Traefik for SSL & routing
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    - `postfix-relay` for outgoing email
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## Principles / features:
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 - Security by default
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     - Secret storage using `docker secret` (["What makes it secure?"](https://github.com/BretFisher/ama/issues/86))
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     - Automatic SSL using Traefik & LetsEncrypt
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 - Zero-downtime deployments (for apps with healthchecks defined)
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 - Continuous integration testing using Drone and our [`stack-ssh-deploy`](https://git.autonomic.zone/coop-cloud/stack-ssh-deploy) plugin
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 - Low maintenance overhead:
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     - Automatic tracking of upstream Docker images using `renovate-bot`
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     - Avoiding custom Docker images as far as possible
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[traefik]: https://hub.docker.com/_/traefik?tab=tags
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[mariadb]: https://hub.docker.com/_/mariadb?tab=tags
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