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## Coop-Cloud Meetup @ 39C3
> Warning: this is no real protocol, since we did not really decide someone to
> write down something (and what), but it was my try to summarize the
> conclusive parts. For all attendees, please correct and extend on what i
> wrote here, if something is missing or wrong :)
### Talk about Coop-Cloud
Simon and d1 are looking into the old state and maybe update it.
### Alakazam workshop
Tomorrow 16:15 at the coop-cloud table.
### Daily things with coop-cloud (what is nice, what not)
* Generally good experience
* SSO stuff is cumbersome
* Keeping an eye on recipe changes is a bit hard
* Onboarding for new users could be easyer
* Catalog has structural problems
* All are using several workarounds
* Upgrading a recipe is cumbersome (there is a proposal to make that better, just has to be implemented)
### More cooperation in general/ reflect on kiteflying / talk about finances:
* Me try to do it once a month with more static topics
* The radmin role would maybe help to fix to get people payed for stuff through that
* Draft from p4u1 and d1
* Maybe a proposal gets made by kawaiipunk to rise the wage for internal tasks (discussions will follow to refine that idea)
* We want to implement the maintainers proposal to more recipes
* We should implement default guidelines for cooperation/contribution for the recipes, which can be "overwritten" by each reipe maintainers
* We want to experiment with automated testing, for recipes, here it would be great to have some kind of a defined list of what should be tested
* Maybe we could implement a language server for abra
* Idea: Workaround sharing session or blog write ups about the workarounds used
* Idea: move away from the env file in the future via defining a standard over alakazam without breaking the env (like upstream alakazam)
### Political Statement in the Documentation
d1 puts survey answers to a text and then we work together and decide it in a kiteflying.