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title: 2025-12-28
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## Coop-Cloud Meetup @ 39C3
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> Warning: this is no real protocol, since we did not really decide someone to
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> write down something (and what), but it was my try to summarize the
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> conclusive parts. For all attendees, please correct and extend on what i
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> wrote here, if something is missing or wrong :)
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### Talk about Coop-Cloud
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Simon and d1 are looking into the old state and maybe update it.
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### Alakazam workshop
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Tomorrow 16:15 at the coop-cloud table.
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### Daily things with coop-cloud (what is nice, what not)
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* Generally good experience
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* SSO stuff is cumbersome
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* Keeping an eye on recipe changes is a bit hard
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* Onboarding for new users could be easyer
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* Catalog has structural problems
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* All are using several workarounds
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* Upgrading a recipe is cumbersome (there is a proposal to make that better, just has to be implemented)
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### More cooperation in general/ reflect on kiteflying / talk about finances:
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* Me try to do it once a month with more static topics
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* The radmin role would maybe help to fix to get people payed for stuff through that
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* Draft from p4u1 and d1
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* Maybe a proposal gets made by kawaiipunk to rise the wage for internal tasks (discussions will follow to refine that idea)
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* We want to implement the maintainers proposal to more recipes
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* We should implement default guidelines for cooperation/contribution for the recipes, which can be "overwritten" by each reipe maintainers
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* We want to experiment with automated testing, for recipes, here it would be great to have some kind of a defined list of what should be tested
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* Maybe we could implement a language server for abra
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* Idea: Workaround sharing session or blog write ups about the workarounds used
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* Idea: move away from the env file in the future via defining a standard over alakazam without breaking the env (like upstream alakazam)
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### Political Statement in the Documentation
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d1 puts survey answers to a text and then we work together and decide it in a kiteflying.
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